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Veggie Cap Crap – How Supplements Can Harm You

by Dr. Dennis Clark 67 Comments

veggie-capsVeggie cap composition can cause stomach discomfort, gas, bloating, and diarrhea. If you have ever felt oversensitive to certain supplements, the capsule that contains them may be the culprit. So-called ‘vegetable capsules’ were created in a misguided attempt to replace those nasty, animal-based gelatin capsules that supplements used to come in. This move has been more harmful than helpful, because ‘veggie caps’ are not as natural as the supplement manufacturers want you to believe.

A Personal Experiment

You CAN do this at home.

I never even considered that veggie caps could be a problem. That is, until I did a simple experiment. It started with the observation that when I took a boatload of supplements at one time, I got NASCAR-fast burning diarrhea racing through me. Frankly, this kept me from taking my supplements as regularly as I would have liked.

I always suspected vitamin C as the culprit, since this is a common side effect of taking too much of this vitamin without building up tolerance to it.

For some reason, though, I started to wonder about all the veggie cap material that I was also taking with my supplements. To check out this out, all I did was disassemble all of my supplement capsules and dump their contents into a liter of water. This is what I drank down over a few hours and … VOILA! … discovered that it caused no digestive problems whatsoever.

Hmm.

Of course, in this Age of Google, I soon found forums and blog comments where lots and lots of other folks reported the same difficulties when taking supplements in veggie caps.

Now for the Shocker

All of the following sentiments about veggie caps are absolutely untrue!

“Veggie caps are easily digested.”

“Veggie caps are all natural.”

“Veggie caps are soooo much better for you than gelatin caps.”

These are marketing-based claims designed to feed the oversimplified beliefs of the “plants are cleaner” crowd.

Here is what I found out to be the real truth about veggie caps.

They are made of a substance called hydroxypropyl methylcellulose, which is described as follows on Wikipedia:

Hypromellose, short for hydroxypropyl methylcellulose (HPMC), is a semisynthetic, inert, viscoelastic polymer used as an ophthalmic lubricant, as well as an excipient and controlled-delivery component in oral medicaments, found in a variety of commercial products. As a food additive, hypromellose is an emulsifier, thickening and suspending agent, and an alternative to animal gelatin.

Got all that? Here is some more enlightenment.

The driving reason behind the creation of veggie caps was to provide a substitute for gelatin caps. Gelatin is derived from collagen, which comes from animals. Remember the good old days, when Jell-O was a great gelatin-based treat? Fast forward to modern times, whereby collagen-based supplements are wonderful for the health of our joints, bones, skin, and nails. Yup, plain old Jell-O was the first collagen supplement.

Gelatin is easily digestible. If not, then generations of children would have suffered untold digestive harm from constant diarrhea and its consequent dehydration. Deadly.

The Reality of Veggie Cap Chemistry

Hydroxypropyl methylcellulose is made by starting with cellulose, which comes from plants. Cellulose is completely indigestible by humans. Altering cellulose by adding hydroxy, propyl, and methyl moieties does nothing to change that.

Veggie caps are therefore 100% indigestible!

HPMC is what we call a ‘semi-synthetic’ substance. It is not a natural substance!

Indigestible, semi-synthetic substances are not necessarily inert. In fact, they often provide fuel for colon bacteria that can digest a lot of things that pass through our system untouched. This is apparently what happens to veggie caps. That may not seem so bad until you realize that a colon bacterial bloom creates metabolic gases and acids that result in bloating and diarrhea.

This is why veggie caps are NOT better for you than gelatin caps!

What is Actually Better for You?

Gelatin capsules. Plain and simple.

Our bodies already have the ability to digest, absorb, and reassemble collagen. That’s why eating Jell-O always made for better nails. That’s why collagen supplements support the health of bones, joints, skin, and nails.

Ultimately, that is why gelatin capsules are superior in every way to veggie caps when it comes to health benefits.

What to Do

You can do several things to reduce your consumption of veggie caps when taking supplements.

  • Since supplements in veggie caps are hard to avoid, then do what I do. Disassemble each veggie cap and dump the contents into a glass of water. You can mix all of your supplements together that way.
  • Buy bulk powders whenever you can.
  • Buy supplements in softgels. Softgels are still made from gelatin.
  • Buy supplements that are already in liquid.*

*The main caveat for liquid supplements is to watch out for other ingredients, especially sweeteners. Most non-sugar sweeteners will act on our system the same way that veggie caps to.

Best Practices

My first choice for supplements is always based on how I can take them without consuming veggie caps. As mentioned above, this is fairly simple by removing capsule contents and mixing them in water.

Of course, the best and most convenient practice is getting liquid supplements in the first place, especially if they don’t contain added sweeteners and food dyes.

Finding just the right liquids can still be a challenge. That’s why I first look for what I need among the liquid supplements at Botanic Choice. See what I mean here:


Natural Vitamins and Herbs Since 1910

If you like their products as much as I do, and you order through that link, I’ll get a small commission for referring you there. It’ll help keep the lights on, so thanks!

More ‘Buyer Beware’ Stuff

Not all supplements are what they’re cracked up to be. And not everyone really needs a cartload of them.

Deciding what you need and what the best sources are may seem overwhelming. Just keep up as much a you can by reading and studying good information. Although I may be biased, I really like what I have to say about this topic.

You may, too. See what you think about these examples.

Do You Really Need Nutritional Supplements? Maybe.

Multivitamins – The Good, The Bad, The Ugly

Ultimately, regardless of how you reduce or eliminate veggie caps from your supplement protocol, you will be better off when you do so.

Be well,

Dr. D

Filed Under: Dietary Supplements Tagged With: gelatin capsules, vegetable capsules, veggie cap, veggie capsules

Comments

  1. Rebecca says

    January 19, 2017 at 8:46 pm

    This is great info. I just feel horrible when I take a lot of veggie caps. It feels like a big gelatinous lump in my digestive system and it makes me feel nauseous and really weird. So I’ve been doing what you describe for a long time; however some herbs are so positively disgusting (rhodiola for example) that the powder literally makes me almost vomit. So I wish there was a better alternative when it’s super gross. I’m a vegetarian for ethical reasons so I don’t want to take veggie caps.

    Reply
    • Dr. Dennis Clark says

      January 20, 2017 at 11:29 am

      Hi, Rebecca:

      I suspect that you and I are not the only ones having challenges with veggie caps. You are also spot on about how awful some supplements are to get down. Turmeric might even be worse than rhodiola. I know that MSM certainly is. I don’t have an ideal strategy yet. At this time I empty my supplement capsules into water, add a little liquid Stevia, and either slug it down or sip it over a few hours. It still tastes terrible, and sometimes my stomach gets upset anyway. In spite of this issue, it is better than most liquid forms of supplements, since they often have sweeteners that I simply won’t consume. Ah, for the sake of good health!

      All the best,
      Dennis

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      • Suezen Kindler says

        July 9, 2018 at 8:33 am

        Dennis! As one who reads all of my labels even on my supplements, I saw hypromellose didn’t know what it was and it led me to your site. Thank you so much you have enlightened me I appreciate this immensely I like everything else that’s in the supplement so I will do what you recommended which is to empty it into water and take it that way I don’t mind the weird Taste of different supplements I’m used to it because I do that with other things. So thank you again I will pass this information on to many. Yours in health, Susan Kindler, LMT

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        • Dr. Dennis Clark says

          July 9, 2018 at 9:50 am

          Hi, Suezen:

          I am very happy to be helpful on this topic. Thank you for your kind comments and commitment to spreading the word on veggie caps. Another (unacceptable) alternative is liquid supplements. They are routinely adulterated with awful sweeteners and other flavors. I suppose you and I will just have to put up with the ‘interesting’ flavor of capsule contents in water. One thing I do occasionally is add a half teaspoon of MSM powder. That stuff is so bitter that it cancels out the other tastes from supplements. Yummy!

          All the best,
          Dennis

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      • Loretta says

        April 3, 2021 at 3:49 am

        Thank you for this info. I will be looking to read what material the capsules actually are from now on.

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        • Dr. Dennis Clark says

          April 4, 2021 at 9:41 am

          Hi, Loretta:

          That’s generally a good strategy for weaving through the maze of challenges we have as consumers. Reading labels is a good start. Digging into what the ingredients really are takes it to the next level. Keep it up!

          Cheers,
          Dennis

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    • SK says

      July 28, 2018 at 11:35 am

      Try taking them in a high quality protein drink or other tasty drink, preferably something with body out thickness.

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      • Dr. Dennis Clark says

        July 28, 2018 at 1:12 pm

        SK…Thanks for the suggestion. I have been looking for a good base liquid for dumping my capsule contents into. The best I’ve found so far is a greens powder that has some good flavor, mixed into water. Powders from capsules still clump up a little, though. My shaker cup has a little wire ball that breaks up the lumps somewhat. An improvement, although not ideal yet.

        Cheers,
        Dennis

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      • Peggy says

        March 28, 2020 at 10:55 am

        I put mine in a tablespoon of yogurt this morning and it wasn’t to terrible. Just ate it quick.

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        • Dr. Dennis Clark says

          March 28, 2020 at 11:55 am

          Nice creativity, Peggy. That’s what it takes sometimes. -Dennis-

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    • Miguel says

      March 11, 2021 at 3:23 am

      There is another vegeterian market alternative, it’s called Pullulan capsules. These are made from fermented Tapioca starch and no chemical or unnatural compound is involved in the process of manufacturing. Some brands are already starting to offer it.

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      • Dr. Dennis Clark says

        March 17, 2021 at 9:33 am

        Miguel…I looked up that ingredient (Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pullulan) and came away impressed. Thanks for the input.

        Cheers,
        Dennis

        Reply
  2. Lawrence Buck says

    May 25, 2017 at 11:18 am

    I use supplements in veggie caps.
    They don’t make me sick but if they are indigestible I have to do something about it.
    They are too expensive and important to not be digested in my stomach.

    Is the bottom line that the supplement’s will not begin digesting in my stomach but rather pass through the intestinal track because of the veggie caps?

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    • Dr. Dennis Clark says

      May 25, 2017 at 12:21 pm

      Hi, Lawrence:
      You pretty much nailed it. Veggie caps are indigestible for our native enzymes. However, once that material passes into the colon, normal intestinal bacteria there will start to break it down. The excess gas and acid from such a bacterial bloom is behind the bloating and diarrhea that comes from consuming too much of the veggie cap material. If you don’t have those symptoms, then you are probably off the hook. The good news is that veggie caps dissolve fairly quickly, so any supplements they contain will be released, starting in your stomach. You can do a little experiment to confirm this. Just put a capsule in water, maybe with a little vinegar, and watch how long it takes to dissolve. It should dissolve within minutes, certainly no more than a half hour.

      All the best,
      Dennis

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      • Lawrence Buck says

        May 26, 2017 at 10:10 am

        Thank you much Dennis.

        This information is very useful as Joe Mercola mentioned this briefly but didn’t detail enough.

        I was worried and have been cutting the gell caps open ever since.

        Kind Regards,

        Lawrence

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        • Dr. Dennis Clark says

          May 26, 2017 at 11:53 am

          You are welcome, Lawrence. I am glad to be of help.

          Cheers,
          Dennis

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          • Lawrence Buck says

            June 6, 2017 at 6:13 am

            Dr. Dennis,

            I just wanted to take time to inform you that the test with the veggie cap in water with a little vinegar went well.
            The cap began to dissolve and break open at 12 minutes.

            Thanks again for your help with my dilemma.. !!

            Larry

          • Dr. Dennis Clark says

            June 7, 2017 at 10:13 am

            I hereby christen you a self-hacking scientist. Glad to hear of your results, Larry. Thanks for the update.

            Cheers,
            Dennis

      • froggymartin says

        October 31, 2019 at 2:30 pm

        You said two things: that veggie caps are indigestible and also that they dissolve fairly quickly.
        Which is true? or if both,
        would this mean that once dissolved the substance itself passes on through?
        Thank you, froggymartin

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        • Dr. Dennis Clark says

          November 1, 2019 at 7:08 am

          Hi, froggymartin…I suppose that I wasn’t too clear on that one, was I? Here’s what to know: we don’t have any enzymes to break up the semi-synthetic veggie cap material, so it is indigestible. On the other hand, veggie caps can dissolve fairly quickly in ordinary water or in stomach ‘juices’. Even when dissolved, though, it just continues through the GI tract, either until bacteria can break it down or until is passes on through. The trouble comes from bacterial metabolites, including gas and acids. Thanks for the great question!

          Cheers,
          Dennis

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  3. Cecelia says

    February 22, 2018 at 3:47 pm

    I have been taking Veggie caps and find that I have been bloated and upset stomach. I was thinking of stopping them I found your website trying to find if these may cause bloating in others or is it just me !
    Thnak yiu,
    Cecelia

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    • Dr. Dennis Clark says

      February 24, 2018 at 7:22 am

      Hi, Cecelia: You are spot on in recognizing what happens with you. Others have similar issues. The “veggie cap” crusade (i.e., to avoid gelatin caps, made from animal products) is not as harmless as people think. Once I caught on to what was happening with me – i.e., digestive upsets – I started opening my veggie cap products, discarding the caps, and mixing the contents into a drink. Not very tasty. That solved it. The next issue of concern is the common filler, maltodextrin. I’ll have something to say about that before too long. Thanks for you input.

      All the best,
      Dennis

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  4. EMR says

    April 22, 2018 at 9:45 pm

    As a few other readers have reported, I recently had a bad spell of bloating, excessive gas, among other digestive symptoms I won’t detail here, PLUS joint pain. I started taking a new timed-release methylated B complex that uses “hypromelose SR agent” mixed with the capsule contents, and finally after five days of increasing agony I stopped using them. It took almost three days to get it out of my system, but the during portion I had the same symptoms I get when I’ve been “glutened” or “tapioca-ed.” I just yesterday started back on a methylated B I have used for years without issue, although today I have had some stomach upset again. So I will try your method of consuming the contents with water, but I wonder if you happen to know if consuming B vitamins this way would affect/hinder their absorption or even their delivery to the small intestine? A herbalist I follow recommends mixing B vitamins with kefir and allowing them to ferment overnight- his reasons are sound to me, although I can’t handle dairy either! I’m hoping nothing is lost en route when consumed with water alone.

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    • Dr. Dennis Clark says

      April 23, 2018 at 8:57 am

      Hi, EMR…Isn’t it amazing (and disappointing) how some things that are supposed to be good for us actually cause harm? I am glad that you discovered the issues that I found out about veggie caps. I had digestive problems that I finally pinpointed to hypromellose capsules. Saying ‘veggie caps’ is certainly misleading! About your question: no, absorption will not diminish when B vitamins are in water. Indeed, I have occasionally taken them in liquid products. One more item of potential concern for you (and me) is one of the common fillers in capsules – maltodextrin. We would all be better off without ingesting it. Good luck finding capsules without it, though. Oh, about kefir. No need to mix in B vitamins if you have a potent active culture. The bacteria themselves will make many B vitamins. I am with you about dairy, though. In my case, lactose intolerant. Thanks for your input.

      All the best,
      Dennis

      Reply
  5. Susan Masone says

    July 6, 2018 at 11:51 am

    Dear Dr. Clark,
    Thanks for your info on the topic of vegan capsules. However, regarding Hypromellose capsules (HPMC), your product Fem Rebalance by VItanica contains capsules made of HPMC. This contradicts your advice.
    ~Susan

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    • Dr. Dennis Clark says

      July 6, 2018 at 12:11 pm

      Hi, Susan: Spot on. I couldn’t agree more. Although Vitanica isn’t my company, my online store does list Fem Rebalance and thousands of other products from hundreds of companies that do use veggie caps. Avoiding them is nearly impossible, which is why, for the supplements I take, I empty the capsule contents into water and toss out the empties. It is a hassle, I know. Gel caps, which are from animal sources, also have their issues. Pure unencapsulated powders would be ideal. They are just very hard to find. Thank you for your comment. I wish I had a better strategy for you.

      All the best,
      Dennis

      Reply
  6. Joel Gasway says

    July 19, 2018 at 8:44 am

    why has no one designed a non synthetic natural veggie capsule?

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    • Dr. Dennis Clark says

      July 19, 2018 at 8:53 am

      Hi, Joel:

      That is what I have been wondering, too. We may have a possibility, though. Pure Encapsulations has this label on their Nutrient 950 multivitamin/mineral product (which is the one I use): Other Ingredients: ascorbyl palmitate, vegetarian capsule (cellulose, water). Hypromellose (veggie caps) is made from cellulose, so I have to find out if they are really using just cellulose or its chemical derivative. Reading labels is quite an adventure!

      All the best,
      Dennis

      Reply
  7. Dee says

    September 25, 2018 at 12:58 pm

    And if you are allergic to pine, like me, probably from that good ole pine cleaning product in the 70’s and 80’s , then you will be glad to know NOT to take veggie capsules also because the cellulose comes from pine.

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    • Dr. Dennis Clark says

      September 26, 2018 at 7:03 am

      Hi, Dee…Good point. I hadn’t thought of the source of the raw ingredients. Thanks for your comment.

      All the best,
      Dennis

      Reply
  8. Joann says

    April 9, 2019 at 2:00 pm

    The reason I take veggie caps is because geletin capsules have glyphosate in them unless organic. Glyphosate is the pesticide in Roundup weed killer made by Monsanto/Bayer. Monsanto/B have lost several recent cancer law suits with more in line. All GMO foods contain glyphosate. I am very allergic to it. (as in ER room)

    A recent Ceyenne capsule says, “modified vegetable cellulose.”. Do yu know what this means? no way I can swallow Ceyenne.

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    • Dr. Dennis Clark says

      April 11, 2019 at 7:16 am

      Hi, Joann…You are spot on with your comment about gel caps. Indeed, glyphosate is nearly all-pervasive. I posted an article about it earlier, here: https://herbscientist.com/glyphosate-toxicity-government-approved-lies-that-keep-on-giving/. Toxicity is much worse than most people realize. My best strategy for avoiding both veggie caps and gel caps is to empty the capsule contents into water, mix well, and drink. For gel caps containing liquid (vitamin E supplements, etc.), I chew them to squeeze their contents out, then spit out the gel cap itself. It is not ideal, just the best I can do for now. (Tablets avoid these issues.) BTW, glyphosate is used heavily on non-GMO crops, too – wheat is a common example. As for your question about “modified vegetable cellulose” – that is just another way of stating what veggie caps are made of. In this case, “modified” refers to the end product, hypromellose (aka, veggie caps), which is made from cellulose. Pretty sneaky, I’d say.

      All the best,
      Dennis

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  9. Dom says

    April 24, 2019 at 6:01 am

    OMG! I thought I was dying. And the more probiotics I took the worse it got. Thanks so much for the article. In 24 hours all the gas, bloating and diarrhea stopped.

    Reply
    • Dr. Dennis Clark says

      April 24, 2019 at 6:45 am

      Hi, Dom…That is GREAT news. You made my day, just knowing that my article helped you.

      All the best,
      Dennis

      Reply
  10. Jeff says

    June 17, 2019 at 3:12 pm

    You are right on.

    The supplement industry is a big lie.

    Capsules made out of wood fibers can’t be good.

    Is it any coincidence that stomach problemas are so common these days?

    And people run to buy probiotics….in veggie caps….making things worse….

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    • Dr. Dennis Clark says

      June 19, 2019 at 6:35 am

      Thanks, Jeff. Tracking down truths about supplements and natural health is a passion of mine. I am very glad that you and others can benefit from what I discover. Gelatin caps also come with unwanted ‘bonuses’ – i.e., gelatin derived from grain-fed animals harbors glyphosate (https://herbscientist.com/glyphosate-toxicity-government-approved-lies-that-keep-on-giving/). I don’t even like common fillers, such as maltodextrin (loaded with deuterium – that’s another story). More than ever, caveat emptor, is a valuable mantra for consumers of anything and everything.

      All the best,
      Dennis

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      • Dee says

        December 17, 2019 at 10:28 am

        Can you give us a source for organic gel caps? I have tried searching but havent come up with anything.

        Thanks, Dee

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        • Dr. Dennis Clark says

          December 18, 2019 at 7:18 am

          I’m with you, Dee. Lots of companies sell organic gelatin powders, not capsules. I don’t have a source at all for such capsules.

          Cheers,
          Dennis

          Reply
  11. Joan Farmer says

    July 10, 2019 at 10:31 pm

    What a mess!! Because I read another site on HPMC, I continued to search for more info and found yours. I go to a functional medicine doc. Supplements are prescribed rather than pharma drugs. Each year I have to be tested for food sensitivities. Because of a sensitivity to bovine/cow/beef, I figure the gelatin capsules I take are really taboo although one doc said there wasn’t that much bovine in the capsules to worry about it. However, the other supplements contain HPMC. I have numerous supplements to take and in reality, don’t see myself emptying the contents of each HPMC capsule into water. I will send this site to my doctor’s office to see what I should do. I’m sure they have no idea HPMC can be harmful. I would think the more supplements I take, the more the possibility of harm. Thank you for your article!

    Reply
    • Dr. Dennis Clark says

      July 11, 2019 at 7:12 am

      Hi, Joan:

      I am happy that you found this information here. It was a surprise to me, too. Emptying capsules into a glass of water is, indeed, a hassle. It is worth it to me to escape digestive distress caused by HPMC. One other strategy that I use, when possible, is to use only powders. It is much easier to scoop out what I need. Powders are not widely available for most supplements, though. My wife takes liquids instead of capsules. Liquids have flavorings and sweeteners that make them unacceptable to me. I wish you the best with your doctor so that you can work out a way to minimize the negative impact of capsules.

      All the best,
      Dennis

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  12. Messiah Mews says

    September 6, 2019 at 9:36 pm

    I have been re-encapsulating my products for years now. BSE-Free bovine gel caps from grass fed cattle can be found, it just takes effort in searching them out. We have NO issues with gelatin caps whatsoever.

    We avoid any and all kinds of cellulose, including microcrystalline cellulose, which is often in the powdered mixes of supplements. Many times we will good product, with the cellulose only in the capsule shell, so those particular supplements are savable. But if it’s in the mix, then the whole thing supplement is ruined. Usually you can tell by reading the labels if it’s in the mix, capsule only, or both. Bulk supplement companies like BulkSupplements or PureBulk will sometimes have the supplements in gelatin capsules, with NO OTHER INGREDIENTS. We buy all those up in large quantities.

    All the celluose today being used in nutreceuticals and pharmaceuticals are all nano. The methods are going to a “nano delivery” and this is also being utilized in vaccines/chemtrails and in a lot of health supplements which when consumed aggregate and agglomerate and morph and get activated with almost any form of frequency. And it begins it’s assembling and as a result it densifies even more. Tony Pantalleresco’s website augmentinforce.com has several links on the topic and yes you can get this out but with great difficulty. Cellulase and hemi-cellulase enzymes (totally different!) Will help digest cellulose and start breaking it up. I wrote an article called “Hardening of the Body” which covers this and other forms of buildup like AGEs, cellulose buildup, myxedema, hardened firbrin and more, and the different types of supplements, herbs, and essentials oils to help dissolve and release all this hardening. Also anti-nano buckets and other forms of PEMF devices help move the nano out.

    The best way to stop this insanity is to NEVER buy from these companies and/or quit promoting them to begin with. If we all do those two things, then they might just get the message.

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    • Dr. Dennis Clark says

      September 13, 2019 at 7:37 am

      Thank you so much for your extensive comment here, Messiah Mews. Your points are well taken. Speaking with our wallets/purses is the best way to be heard. We’d be a lot better off if more manufacturers used BSE-Free bovine gel caps, as you suggest – especially if they can also be glyphosate-free. By the way, an additional drawback of carb-based (“veggie”) caps is their enhanced deuterium content. That is an interesting story that I will write about before too long.

      Cheers,
      Dennis

      Reply
  13. Ana Sitton says

    November 18, 2019 at 3:11 pm

    Thank you for this information! I too experienced extreme discomfort after consuming a supplement in a veggie cap. Had to stop immediately. So glad to have found this great article about the matter.

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    • Dr. Dennis Clark says

      November 20, 2019 at 9:21 am

      Thanks, Ana. I am happy that you and others are discovering this information. Once I explored it, I got the explanation I was looking for when I took supplements, too. (I.e., digestive upset)

      All the best in natural health,
      Dennis

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  14. Dee says

    December 17, 2019 at 12:49 pm

    DR Clark, Is Pullulan ok for a capsule? Ive read it is better than gelatin and veggie.

    Reply
    • Dr. Dennis Clark says

      December 18, 2019 at 7:24 am

      Hi, Dee…This looks like a better substance that hypromellose veggie caps. It is still hard to digest, although more likely as a prebiotic.

      Cheers,
      Dennis

      Reply
  15. Susan says

    December 30, 2019 at 10:44 am

    Dr Clark,
    I have been trying to find out if I can empty my capsules, more for convenience since I take a lot of supplements ( I am 65 so apparently I have lower amounts of everything, so it’s said lol). Also I have become concerned about the ingredients in the capsules myself. One example I was thinking of was the magnesium stearate. My main concern is-are there supplements you know of that would not be metabolized efficiently in the mixed in form and should be swallowed in capsule form. Also, can they be mixed in smoothies or juice instead of water? Would this influence absorption where they are supposed to be absorbed? Thank you for the information- it has opened my eyes.

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    • Dr. Dennis Clark says

      December 30, 2019 at 12:28 pm

      Hi, Susan: The “inactive ingredients” an any supplement or medication may or may not be inactive. Their roles depend more on making a powder non-clumpy, easy to disperse, and/or more soluble. Magnesium stearate is used for keeping ingredients from sticking together. Not much research on long-term effects, though. In general, mixing in smoothies or water is similar. Digestive juices induced by smoothies may help absorption of added ingredients, though. The jury is still out on that one, too. In general, I have continued to discover how most supplements either are not helpful or have negative consequences. Ascorbic acid (NOT vitamin C!), melatonin, fish oils, folic acid, and many others are just some examples that are not as good as their marketing hype suggests. This is a pretty complicated issue that I am still learning. Maybe I will have it figured out when I hit 100 … well ahead of you, by the way.
      “…lower amounts of everything…” – ? That sure seems to be the story for us Baby Boomers, doesn’t it? Of course, if you checked out my Baby Boomers Health Center, you will see that I have a completely different view than the mainstream when it comes to what “normal” aging means. Cheers,
      Dennis

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      • Dr. Dennis Clark says

        December 30, 2019 at 12:43 pm

        Hi again, Susan…How rude of me not to provide a link! (Although I assumed/suspected that you already had seen this): https://babyboomershealthcenter.com/. Have a great new year!

        Dennis

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  16. Julia says

    January 16, 2020 at 7:47 pm

    I thought I had read somewhere that this veggie crap could cause liver cirrhosis? I’m under treatment with a naturopathic oncologist and was taking berberine and vita C and all sorts of stuff – but shocked they have this Hypromellose garbage. In the last 6-8 weeks it seemed my guts were balling at taking the stuff, and I tried the pull apart and eat the nasty stuff inside capsule (Mary Poppins was not joking about “a spoonful of sugar makes the medicine go down.). But the bit about collagen – I have Great Lake bovine collagen – could I make up a batch and put my supplements contents inside that and shoot em down?

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    • Dr. Dennis Clark says

      January 22, 2020 at 12:30 pm

      Hi, Julia…I’m sorry to hear of your liver challenges. Regarding your question, I have never heard of hypromellose influencing cirrhosis. It would not surprise me, though. Now, about collagen. The key is to get collagen from organic sources, since it reflects the food of the source animal. If cows or pigs eat modern grains, they will contain glyphosate. Just be wary of it. If you haven’t seen my post on it, see what I have to say here: https://herbscientist.com/glyphosate-toxicity-government-approved-lies-that-keep-on-giving/. I’m with you on the concept of a spoonful of sugar. However, these days I use Stevia instead.

      Cheers,
      Dennis

      Reply
  17. Rebecca Jones says

    February 10, 2020 at 2:02 pm

    Well done! Thanks for posting such great information!!

    Reply
    • Dr. Dennis Clark says

      February 10, 2020 at 2:48 pm

      Well, now, Rebecca…THAT made my day! Many thanks for you kind words.

      Cheers,
      Dennis

      Reply
  18. Amesha says

    July 13, 2020 at 10:29 pm

    Wow, your article was so informative! I’m so glad that I found your article. Okay, so I’m not going crazy, I suspected that these veggie capsules could be the culprit of my stomach issues! All of my supplements are veggie caps, but I’m not a vegetarian. I started taking veggie caps because they dissolve way faster then the gelatin. The gelatin soft-gels felt like they were just sitting in the bottom of my stomach. Maybe I could find some, BSE-Free Bovine soft gels and give those a try. So Dr. what do you think about flaxseed oil supplements? Is liquid better or softgels? Thanks in Advance!

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    • Dr. Dennis Clark says

      July 15, 2020 at 10:36 am

      Hi, Amesha: I’m so glad that you found my article informative and helpful. Regarding your question, I have two strategies. Yes, you can use liquid supplements. Flax oil, of course, simply has to be refrigerated. The other strategy, which I use, is to chew the gel caps to get their contents. Then I spit out the capsule remnant. Softgels and gelatin caps have one other disadvantage. Depending on their source (e.g., domestic feedlot animals), they can contain a substantial amount of glyhphosate (active ingredient of Round-Up). Take a look at my post on this dangerous herbicide here: https://herbscientist.com/glyphosate-toxicity-government-approved-lies-that-keep-on-giving/.

      All the best, Dennis

      Reply
  19. Julie says

    July 26, 2020 at 5:34 am

    Oh my goodness !
    I just can’t begin to tell you how grateful I am for finding this information!
    I was popping quite a few of these“vege” caps a day ….in the form of appetite fillers (biggest culprit) …magnesium, and probiotics.
    In the last month (possibly as a result of upping the amount) I have suffered with cramps and urgent (loose) stools along with general discomfort & bloating.
    I was pretty close to seeking medical advice (as I had all sorts of scary thoughts as to what might be wrong with me !) when I came across your website which gave me the lightbulb moment I needed !
    I’ve only ceased taking these for 2 days now and I feel SO much better !
    I don’t really need the fillers and the others can be emptied into yogurt as suggested.
    There’s really nothing much else out there on the web about this which I find surprising, and so I really am incredibly grateful to you for putting this out there!….many many thanks 🙏🏼 😊

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    • Dr. Dennis Clark says

      July 26, 2020 at 7:20 am

      Wow, Julie. Now THAT made my day. I had similar experiences to yours, and I always noticed that my stomach was upset right after I took a few supplements. It was quite a surprise to find that the veggie caps were the culprit. Thanks so much for your kind words. I am grateful that I could point you in the direction of your ‘aha’ moment. Aren’t they fun!

      Cheers,
      Dennis

      Reply
  20. Angela Ford says

    August 15, 2020 at 3:49 pm

    Can you empty levothyroxine into water or yoghurt to avoid vegie capsules and still relieve the benefits of the drug. Im allergic to life at the moment and think the vegie capsules are adding to the thyroid issues

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    • Dr. Dennis Clark says

      August 16, 2020 at 8:39 am

      Hi, Angela: Great question. Generally, you can deposit any capsule contents into water, although many substances won’t actually dissolve. Clumps and particles will stick to the container, so you won’t get all of it. Mixing it in foods such as yogurt would be more effective, since the substance will disperse throughout the food. Whether it dissolves is immaterial. Sometimes I will just empty a capsule directly into my mouth. Do whatever is easiest. Just avoiding veggie caps is the goal. Take care!

      All the best in natural health,
      Dennis

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  21. Emma says

    November 10, 2020 at 2:19 pm

    Will taking cellulase breakdown hypromellose? I only ask because there is only one medication I can take for a particular illness I have (there’s no alternative), and it contains hypromellose which causes diarrhoea for me. I was hoping there was a solution (I can’t remove the hypromellose because it’s inside the capsules I am taking. Ironically, the capsules are gelatin but the contents contain hypromellose, which is presumably mixed in with the active ingredients of the medicine! I’ve emailed the manufacturer to request they remove the hypromellose, but no response as of today.

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    • Dr. Dennis Clark says

      November 11, 2020 at 11:08 am

      Hi, Emma: Now that’s a bummer. Worse yet, cellulase is unlikely to hydrolyze hypromellose. Hypromellose is just not similar enough to actual cellulose. Nevertheless, some hope in the scientific literature might suggest otherwise: Antimicrobial and Antioxidant Activity of Chitosan/Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose Film-Forming Hydrosols Hydrolyzed by Cellulase. Researchers aren’t really interested in answering your question directly. Nevertheless, taking cellulase won’t do any harm, so it would be worthwhile for you to do an experiment on yourself to see whether the enzyme will help. You can also evaluate a good probiotic supplement for this purpose, since colon bacteria can digest some things that we don’t have the native capacity to hydrolyze. Just get one that provides at least 30-50 billion CFU per dose. If you really want to take this to another level, you can even explore the use of the #1 medical probiotic, VSL#3. It can be miraculous. (Just a bit pricey.)

      Best wishes,
      Dennis

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  22. Jim says

    March 1, 2021 at 1:30 am

    You’re entitled to your opinion but I know that veggie caps are not harmful to me in any way in fact, I have never had any problem whatsoever taking herbal supplements in vegetarian capsules so the problems that you’re speaking of and the results that you have gained in your experience could be most likely from the substances that are inside the vegetarian capsules that you have taken. Since I have never had any problems with vegetarian capsules then I can honestly say that it’s a matter of opinion.

    Reply
    • Dr. Dennis Clark says

      March 17, 2021 at 9:24 am

      Good points, Jim. ‘Opinion’ in this case is actually the result of an N=1 experiment, where I’m the only data point. Others have had the same experience. Most folks, like you, probably don’t notice any difficulties. Also, I agree with you about the ‘other’ stuff in supplements. Some of the ‘other ingredients’ can be problematic, too.

      Thanks for your input.

      Cheers,
      Dennis

      Reply
  23. Terry says

    March 13, 2021 at 8:48 am

    You recommend Botanic Choice.
    Take a look at their B-complex please.
    Surely something has updated.
    Hydroxypropyl methylcellulose, polyethylene glycol, magnesium stearate!
    Sorry Charlie, not for me, thank you.

    https://www.botanicchoice.com/Vitamins/B-Vitamins/Super-B-100-Complex-50-tablets.axd

    So, where do I get a B-complex supplement in a Gelatin capsule with No additives?
    No one wants to supply supplements in Gelatin w/o all the other crap.
    Oregon’s Wild Harvest comes closest, any others?

    God bless, Terry

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    • Dr. Dennis Clark says

      March 17, 2021 at 9:29 am

      Hi, Terry: Great comment and questions. Thanks. As for finding a B-complex in gel caps, it’s probably a no-go because these days only fat-soluble supplements are provided in gels anymore. Manufacturing a powdered supplement of mostly water-soluble ingredients, and inserting it into veggies caps, is still the cheapest choice for supplement companies. Ah, always a challenge navigating what’s good vs what we don’t need.

      Cheers,
      Dennis

      Reply
  24. Carolyn says

    March 20, 2021 at 8:07 am

    So glad to have run across your post. I have always innately been aware that the capsules were a problem–it just makes sense that companies are not going to package their goods into anything that would affect their bottom line.

    Thank you Dr. Dennis for confirming my suspicions!

    Carolyn

    Reply
    • Dr. Dennis Clark says

      March 20, 2021 at 2:02 pm

      Glad to be of help, Carolyn. Thanks for your comment.

      Cheers,
      Dennis

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